{"id":4125,"date":"2023-05-20T14:28:00","date_gmt":"2023-05-20T12:28:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.matyasnovak.eu\/?post_type=aktuality&#038;p=4125"},"modified":"2023-06-12T15:12:01","modified_gmt":"2023-06-12T13:12:01","slug":"matyas-novak-liszt-byl-nesmirne-vzdelany-a-mimohudebni-kontext-pouzival-velmi-casto","status":"publish","type":"aktuality","link":"https:\/\/www.matyasnovak.eu\/en\/aktuality\/matyas-novak-liszt-byl-nesmirne-vzdelany-a-mimohudebni-kontext-pouzival-velmi-casto\/","title":{"rendered":"Maty\u00e1\u0161 Nov\u00e1k: Liszt byl nesm\u00edrn\u011b vzd\u011blan\u00fd a mimohudebn\u00ed kontext pou\u017e\u00edval velmi \u010dasto"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201eSna\u017e\u00edm se, a\u0165 u\u017e jde o zvukovou paletu, o p\u0159ehl\u00eddku obt\u00ed\u017enost\u00ed, nebo o niternost a pro\u017eitky, vytv\u00e1\u0159et logick\u00fd koktejl, abych co nejl\u00e9pe dok\u00e1zal reprodukovat, co skladatel zam\u00fd\u0161lel a cht\u011bl.\u201c<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201eV\u011bt\u0161\u00ed ruce samoz\u0159ejm\u011b pom\u00e1haj\u00ed, co si budeme pov\u00eddat\u2026\u201c<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201eMysl\u00edm, \u017ee p\u016fjde o osv\u011b\u017een\u00ed. Liszt nep\u0159epsal jen vok\u00e1ln\u00ed linku do klav\u00edru, ale vytvo\u0159il n\u00e1dhern\u00e9, technicky i v\u00fdrazov\u00e9 n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e9 a velmi sv\u00e9bytn\u00e9 d\u00edlo.\u201c<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Posledn\u00ed recit\u00e1l v t\u00e9to sez\u00f3n\u011b m\u00e1 v pra\u017esk\u00e9m cyklu Hybatel\u00e9 rezonance Maty\u00e1\u0161 Nov\u00e1k. Mlad\u00fd pianista p\u0159ipravuje na 29. kv\u011btna do Ane\u017esk\u00e9ho kl\u00e1\u0161tera koncertn\u00ed program sestaven\u00fd v\u00fdhradn\u011b z hudby Franze Liszta. V rozhovoru pro port\u00e1l KlasikaPlus.cz se zam\u00fd\u0161l\u00ed nad virtuozitou i v\u00fdrazem jeho hudby, ale tak\u00e9 p\u0159ibli\u017euje sv\u00e9ho pedagoga na Akademii m\u00fazick\u00fdch um\u011bn\u00ed Ivana Kl\u00e1nsk\u00e9ho, kter\u00fd ned\u00e1vno oslavil p\u011btasedmdes\u00e1t\u00e9 narozeniny. Uva\u017euje rovn\u011b\u017e o tom, co asi bude za deset nebo dvacet let, p\u0159ibli\u017euje d\u016fle\u017eitost konkr\u00e9tn\u00edho n\u00e1stroje, na kter\u00fd se hraje, p\u0159em\u00edt\u00e1 nad pojmem inovativnost a prozrazuje, jak\u00fd dal\u0161\u00ed hudebn\u00ed obor by si r\u00e1d ke klav\u00edru p\u0159idal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>O Lisztov\u011b hudb\u011b se \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee je pro klav\u00edristy v reperto\u00e1ru t\u00edm nejt\u011b\u017e\u0161\u00edm. Je to tak? M\u00e1te n\u011bjak\u00e9 srovn\u00e1n\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">N\u011bco na tom ur\u010dit\u011b je. Lisztovy kompozice jsou velmi technicky n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e9, probl\u00e9m\u016f, kter\u00e9 pianista mus\u00ed \u0159e\u0161it, je i na velmi kr\u00e1tk\u00e9m \u00faseku hodn\u011b. Liszt je ale velkou v\u00fdzvou i po v\u00fdrazov\u00e9 str\u00e1nce. V p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b n\u011bkter\u00fdch skladeb je pot\u0159eba se hodn\u011b zam\u00fd\u0161let, jak je uchopit. Kdy\u017e se d\u00edlo pochop\u00ed nespr\u00e1vn\u011b, tak m\u016f\u017ee vyzn\u00edt celkov\u011b \u00fapln\u011b \u0161patn\u011b, na rozd\u00edl od n\u011bkter\u00fdch Chopinov\u00fdch skladeb, kde je jasn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed, jak je v\u00fdrazov\u011b pojmout. Snad jsem na\u0161el vhodn\u00e1 slova\u2026 Chci \u0159\u00edci, \u017ee vklad um\u011blce pro to, aby skladba vyzn\u011bla, jak m\u00e1, je u Liszta hodn\u011b podstatnou v\u011bc\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Opravdu v obou rovin\u00e1ch? Nejen v t\u00e9 manu\u00e1ln\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ano, mysl\u00edm, \u017ee pr\u00e1v\u011b nejv\u00edc v t\u00e9 druh\u00e9\u2026! Techniku u\u017e m\u00e1 dneska ka\u017ed\u00fd, kdo je na n\u011bjak\u00e9 \u00farovni \u2013 na evropsk\u00e9, na sv\u011btov\u00e9\u2026 Ale pr\u00e1v\u011b spr\u00e1vn\u00e9 pochopen\u00ed respektive uchopen\u00ed skladby je u Liszta kl\u00ed\u010dov\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Souvis\u00ed s manu\u00e1ln\u00ed str\u00e1nkou hry, jak velkou m\u00e1 klav\u00edrista ruku? \u0158\u00edk\u00e1 se t\u0159eba, \u017ee Sergej Rachmaninov m\u011bl velk\u00e9 ruce a \u017ee pr\u00e1v\u011b d\u00edky tomu psal a hr\u00e1l, jak psal a hr\u00e1l\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ano, tohle bych poci\u0165oval jako t\u00e9ma sp\u00ed\u0161 pr\u00e1v\u011b u n\u011bj ne\u017e u Liszta. Ale v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed ruce samoz\u0159ejm\u011b pom\u00e1haj\u00ed, co si budeme pov\u00eddat\u2026 U ka\u017ed\u00e9 hudby. Poka\u017ed\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>A vy m\u00e1te sp\u00ed\u0161e velkou, nebo malou ruku?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u0158ekl bych, \u017ee tak akor\u00e1t\u2026 Ale sp\u00ed\u0161 v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Dovedete si p\u0159edstavit, \u017ee by n\u011bjak\u00fd pedagog mlad\u00e9mu adeptovi \u0159ekl, \u017ee s velikost\u00ed jeho ruky nem\u00e1 ani smysl na klav\u00edr n\u011bjak v\u00e1\u017en\u011b zkou\u0161et hr\u00e1t? Nebo to p\u0159ece jen nehraje tak velkou roli?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee hlavn\u00ed je nad\u0161en\u00ed. Chce-li n\u011bkdo opravdu hr\u00e1t, tak velikost ruky nehraje roli. Pokud samoz\u0159ejm\u011b nejde o n\u011bjakou v\u00fdvojovou vadu\u2026 Nen\u00ed to ur\u010duj\u00edc\u00ed. A d\u00e1 se to kompenzovat nejen nad\u0161en\u00edm, ale i volbou reperto\u00e1ru.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>P\u0159i\u010dem\u017e v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b hran\u00ed hudby Sergeje Rachmaninova je p\u0159ece jen v\u00fdhodou, kdy\u017e ta ruka je v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ano, jednozna\u010dn\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>A s v\u00fdrazem hudby se popasuje klav\u00edrista v jak\u00e9mkoli v\u011bku? A\u0165 u\u017e obecn\u011b, nebo u Liszta\u2026 Jak moc je to z\u00e1visl\u00e9 na zralosti?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lisztova hudba je mnohovrstevnat\u00e1. V jeho odkazu jsou d\u00edla, kter\u00e1 vystihuj\u00ed ta nejnitern\u011bj\u0161\u00ed z\u00e1kout\u00ed lidsk\u00e9 du\u0161e, ale i skladby, kter\u00e9 jsou, \u0159ekn\u011bme, trochu plytk\u00e9. Chce to tedy hodn\u011b rozli\u0161ovat. V p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b velmi v\u00fdrazov\u011b n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00fdch kompozic, kter\u00e9 maj\u00ed n\u00e1bo\u017eensk\u00fd nebo liter\u00e1rn\u00ed p\u0159esah, je um\u011blcova zralost nutn\u00e1. Je t\u0159eba sezn\u00e1mit se s p\u0159edlohou, p\u0159e\u010d\u00edst si kontext, ve kter\u00e9m d\u00edla vznikala, zjistit, \u010d\u00edm jsou inspirov\u00e1na\u2026 Liszt byl nesm\u00edrn\u011b vzd\u011blan\u00fd a mimohudebn\u00ed kontext pou\u017e\u00edval velmi \u010dasto.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Liszt: Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/KIgbRorocjI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Tak\u017ee skladba s n\u00e1zvem Po \u010detb\u011b Danta\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026 je inspirov\u00e1na Bo\u017eskou komedi\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Znamen\u00e1 to, \u017ee jste se do n\u00ed pod\u00edval.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Zaj\u00edm\u00e1 v\u00e1s \u2013 nebo bav\u00ed v\u00e1s \u2013 na hudb\u011b, nebo konkr\u00e9tn\u011b na Lisztov\u011b hudb\u011b, vyjad\u0159ov\u00e1n\u00ed emoc\u00ed, hled\u00e1n\u00ed zvuku\u2026 Nebo sp\u00ed\u0161e jste ten typ, kter\u00fd chce ovl\u00e1dnout v\u0161echny v\u00fdzvy a obt\u00ed\u017ee?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 v\u0161e spr\u00e1vn\u011b nam\u00edchat, nakombinovat. Sna\u017e\u00edm se, a\u0165 u\u017e jde o zvukovou paletu, o p\u0159ehl\u00eddku obt\u00ed\u017enost\u00ed, nebo o niternost a pro\u017eitky, vytv\u00e1\u0159et logick\u00fd koktejl, abych co nejl\u00e9pe dok\u00e1zal reprodukovat, co skladatel zam\u00fd\u0161lel a cht\u011bl. Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b \u2013 podle m\u00e9ho n\u00e1zoru.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Kdy\u017e se zept\u00e1m na Ivana Kl\u00e1nsk\u00e9ho, pedagoga hudebn\u00ed fakulty AMU, u kter\u00e9ho studujete\u2026 Jste st\u00e1le je\u0161t\u011b pod jeho vlivem?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ano, jsem v prvn\u00edm ro\u010dn\u00edku magistersk\u00e9ho studia, tedy vlastn\u011b ve \u010dtvrt\u00e9m ro\u010dn\u00edku, p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u00ed rok bych m\u011bl absolvovat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ovliv\u0148uje v\u00e1s lidsky, um\u011blecky, pedagogicky\u2026?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">V\u0161echno dohromady. Pan profesor je obrovsk\u00e1 osobnost. Nejen jako muzikant, ale i jako \u010dlov\u011bk. Spolupr\u00e1ci si opravdu u\u017e\u00edv\u00e1m a jsem r\u00e1d, \u017ee m\u00e1m to privilegium b\u00fdt z\u0159ejm\u011b jeho posledn\u00edm \u017e\u00e1kem na Akademii m\u00fazick\u00fdch um\u011bn\u00ed. Nikoho mlad\u0161\u00edho po mn\u011b u\u017e nep\u0159ijal \u2013 a pokud v\u00edm, tak to ani nepl\u00e1nuje. Ostatn\u011b, je mu p\u011btasedmdes\u00e1t. Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b \u2013 pokud si to nerozmysl\u00ed\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>A jak byste ho charakterizoval? Po \u010dem nejv\u00edc jde jako pedagog?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hodn\u011b \u0159e\u0161\u00ed zvuk n\u00e1stroje, respektive \u00fahozovou techniku. Velmi se zab\u00fdv\u00e1 celkov\u00fdm obrazem skladby, z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed mu na tom, aby d\u00edlo d\u00e1valo smysl jako celek. N\u011bkdy se skladbou zab\u00fdv\u00e1 dokonce a\u017e matematicky, zejm\u00e9na co se pulzace hudby t\u00fd\u010de.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Tak\u017ee je p\u0159\u00edtomen racion\u00e1ln\u00ed prvek, ani\u017e by to ale znamenalo, \u017ee on s\u00e1m je jen a jen racion\u00e1ln\u00ed um\u011blec, vi\u010fte. Kdy\u017e hraje Chopina, ani by ne\u0161lo, \u017ee.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">P\u0159esn\u011b tak.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Vy jste u\u017e nato\u010dil Liszta a Mozarta. Chopin v\u00e1s d\u00edky panu profesorovi, kter\u00fd se mu hodn\u011b v\u011bnoval, nel\u00e1k\u00e1?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pan profesor mi nech\u00e1v\u00e1 velkou volnost v tom, co chci hr\u00e1t. Za to jsem moc \u0161\u0165astn\u00fd, ostatn\u011b mysl\u00edm, \u017ee takhle by to na vysok\u00e9 \u0161kole m\u011blo b\u00fdt. Ale j\u00e1 s\u00e1m jsem se Chopinovi nikdy nevyh\u00fdbal. Hr\u00e1l jsem ho odmali\u010dka. Chopina hraj\u00ed v\u00edcem\u00e9n\u011b v\u0161ichni. Liszt ale mo\u017en\u00e1 vy\u010dn\u00edv\u00e1 v\u00edc pr\u00e1v\u011b t\u00edm, \u017ee se mu u n\u00e1s p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 mnoho jin\u00fdch klav\u00edrist\u016f nev\u011bnuje.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Kdy\u017e si p\u0159edstav\u00edte, \u017ee za rok absolvujete, tak kde vlastn\u011b vn\u00edm\u00e1te hranici mezi studentskou dobou a tou u\u017e definitivn\u00ed um\u011bleckou dosp\u011blost\u00ed? Jde o n\u011bjak\u00fd velk\u00fd zlom?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee v m\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b u\u017e to plynule p\u0159e\u0161lo, nebo p\u0159ech\u00e1z\u00ed. Ka\u017edop\u00e1dn\u011b nec\u00edt\u00edm, \u017ee by konec \u0161koly m\u011bl b\u00fdt n\u011bjak\u00fd zlom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Neznamen\u00e1 to, \u017ee tedy budete n\u00e1hle hozen do vody?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee u\u017e dok\u00e1\u017eu zu\u017eitkovat v\u0161echny cenn\u00e9 rady, kter\u00e9 jsem v pr\u016fb\u011bhu studi\u00ed na\u010derpal, a v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b pot\u0159eby si poradit i bez pedagoga.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>A napad\u00e1 v\u00e1s n\u011bkdy, co bude po profesn\u00ed str\u00e1nce t\u0159eba za deset nebo dvacet let?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A\u017e tak moc nad t\u00edm nep\u0159em\u00fd\u0161l\u00edm. Ono pl\u00e1novat se d\u00e1 leccos, ale t\u0159eba i covidov\u00e1 z\u00e1le\u017eitost n\u00e1m uk\u00e1zala, \u017ee pl\u00e1ny mohou rychle vz\u00edt zasv\u00e9. Ur\u010dit\u011b je dobr\u00e9 m\u00edt c\u00edle, ale nen\u00ed mo\u017en\u00e9 na nich stoprocentn\u011b lp\u011bt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Nicm\u00e9n\u011b n\u011bjak\u00fd v\u00fdvoj za jedno \u010di dv\u011b desetilet\u00ed mus\u00ed nastat nebo postupn\u011b nast\u00e1vat. P\u0159edstavujete si to n\u011bjak? Bude to spo\u010d\u00edvat t\u0159eba v jin\u00e9m reperto\u00e1ru?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">My klav\u00edrist\u00e9 m\u00e1me v\u00fdhodu, \u017ee nikdo z n\u00e1s nedok\u00e1\u017ee p\u0159ehr\u00e1t v\u0161echny skladby, kter\u00e9 pro tento n\u00e1stroj u\u017e byly naps\u00e1ny. Tak\u017ee se v reperto\u00e1ru d\u00e1 posouvat v ka\u017ed\u00e9 \u017eivotn\u00ed etap\u011b, v ka\u017ed\u00e9m v\u011bku. Ale j\u00e1 m\u00e1m je\u0161t\u011b jeden c\u00edl\u2026 Cht\u011bl bych se st\u00e1t i dirigentem. Na tom chci zapracovat. Zrovna tyto dv\u011b discipl\u00edny se daj\u00ed kombinovat, mysl\u00edm, docela hezky.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Tak\u017ee byste za\u010dal t\u00edm, \u017ee byste dirigoval od klav\u00edru?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">P\u0159esn\u011b tak.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>A za\u010dal byste Mozartem?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ano, Mozartovy klav\u00edrn\u00ed koncerty jsou p\u0159esn\u011b t\u00edm, na \u010dem je mo\u017en\u00e9 za\u010d\u00edt. Rachmaninov se od klav\u00edru asi dirigovat ned\u00e1. Anebo ano, ale orchestr by to musel opravdu, ale opravdu hodn\u011b dob\u0159e um\u011bt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>V koncertn\u00edm programu m\u00e1te tak\u00e9 \u00fapravu Schubertov\u00fdch p\u00edsn\u00ed. M\u00e1te je r\u00e1d? Doprov\u00e1zel byste n\u011bjak\u00e9ho zp\u011bv\u00e1ka? Nebo u\u017e jste snad doprov\u00e1zel? To je p\u0159ece jenom jin\u00e1 discipl\u00edna, ne\u017e hr\u00e1t s\u00e1m\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">J\u00e1 jsem se spolupr\u00e1ci s jin\u00fdmi um\u011blci, nebo korepetici, nikdy nebr\u00e1nil, ale z d\u016fvodu velk\u00e9ho s\u00f3lov\u00e9ho vyt\u00ed\u017een\u00ed jsem se pr\u00e1v\u011b t\u011bmto v\u011bcem v\u011bnoval sp\u00ed\u0161e jen okrajov\u011b. V romantick\u00e9m reperto\u00e1ru, zejm\u00e9na v tom p\u00eds\u0148ov\u00e9m, by m\u011b to ale opravdu l\u00e1kalo. Lisztovu \u00fapravu Schubertova Labut\u00edho zp\u011bvu jsem do programu recit\u00e1lu vybral z toho d\u016fvodu, \u017ee pr\u00e1v\u011b tento cyklus byl po\u017eadov\u00e1n na sout\u011b\u017ei Franze Liszta, kter\u00e9 jsem se z\u00fa\u010dastnil loni v Utrechtu. Postoupil jsem tam mezi deset semifinalist\u016f a v jednom ze \u010dty\u0159 kol, kter\u00fdch jsem se z\u00fa\u010dastnil, byla i transkripce cyklu Schwanengesang. Samotn\u00e9ho m\u011b p\u0159ekvapilo, o jak n\u00e1dhern\u00e9 d\u00edlo se jedn\u00e1\u2026 Za\u0159adil jsem v\u00fdb\u011br z tohoto cyklu i na koncert Hybatel\u016f rezonance a mysl\u00edm, \u017ee p\u016fjde o osv\u011b\u017een\u00ed. Liszt nep\u0159epsal jen vok\u00e1ln\u00ed linku do klav\u00edru, ale vytvo\u0159il n\u00e1dhern\u00e9, technicky i v\u00fdrazov\u00e9 n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e9 a velmi sv\u00e9bytn\u00e9 d\u00edlo. Nejde jen o pouhou transkripci, je to n\u00e1dhern\u00e9 virtu\u00f3zn\u00ed d\u00edlo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Cht\u011bl jste i pro tento \u00fakol zn\u00e1t p\u0159edlohu? Zab\u00fdval jste s zp\u00edvan\u00fdmi p\u00edsn\u011bmi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b jsem si p\u00edsn\u011b v origin\u00e1le poslechl. Schubert je napsal v roce 1828, na konci \u017eivota. V\u011bnoval jsem se i b\u00e1snick\u00fdm text\u016fm. Je dobr\u00e9 se textem zab\u00fdvat zejm\u00e9na v ot\u00e1zk\u00e1ch fr\u00e1zov\u00e1n\u00ed. Ve sporn\u00fdch m\u00edstech, kde jsem si nebyl \u00fapln\u011b jist\u00fd, jsem se pod\u00edval na konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed slova a dost mn\u011b to napov\u011bd\u011blo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Vn\u00edm\u00e1te takov\u00fdto recit\u00e1l z hlediska pianisty jako nejt\u011b\u017e\u0161\u00ed discipl\u00ednu? Oproti hran\u00ed s orchestrem nebo komorn\u00ed h\u0159e\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">N\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00fd je recit\u00e1l v\u011bt\u0161inou v d\u00e9lce. S orchestrem se hr\u00e1v\u00e1 v\u011bt\u0161inou jeden klav\u00edrn\u00ed koncert, s v\u00fdjimkou dlouh\u00fdch Brahmsov\u00fdch koncert\u016f maj\u00ed t\u0159eba kolem t\u0159iceti nebo \u010dty\u0159iceti minut. S\u00f3lov\u00fd recit\u00e1l trv\u00e1 sedmdes\u00e1t nebo osmdes\u00e1t minut a \u010dlov\u011bk je na p\u00f3diu s\u00e1m. Ano, je to asi to nejt\u011b\u017e\u0161\u00ed. V\u00fddr\u017e\u00ed, osamocenost\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>A bav\u00ed v\u00e1s takov\u00e9 recit\u00e1lov\u00e9 programy vym\u00fd\u0161let? Nov\u00e9 a nov\u00e9?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Velice, proto\u017ee se skladby kombinuj\u00ed a daj\u00ed se z nich vytv\u00e1\u0159et kontrasty\u2026 T\u0159eba nap\u0159\u00ed\u010d obdob\u00edmi\u2026 Ano, u\u017e\u00edv\u00e1m si to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Odva\u017eujete se b\u00fdt inovativn\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pravda je, \u017ee po\u0159adatel v\u011bt\u0161inou m\u00edv\u00e1 n\u011bjak\u00e9 po\u017eadavky a do t\u011bch se mus\u00edm vej\u00edt. Ale kdybych dostal \u00fapln\u011b volnou ruku, tak bych se ur\u010dit\u011b neb\u00e1l.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>A soudob\u00e9 kompozice?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je pravda, \u017ee kompozice soudob\u00e9 hudby za\u0159azuji do program\u016f jen z\u0159\u00eddka. Uvid\u00edm, jestli se to zm\u011bn\u00ed do budoucna. \u010clov\u011bk mus\u00ed n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem dosp\u011bt a dozr\u00e1t.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Inovativnost mu\u017ee spo\u010d\u00edvat i v za\u0159azen\u00ed n\u011b\u010deho, co se b\u011b\u017en\u011b nehraje\u2026 Busoni, Reger\u2026?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">T\u00edm, \u017ee jsem hodn\u011b hr\u00e1l Liszta, a jeho odkaz vykazuje mnoho zapomenut\u00fdch skladeb, tak jsem se zat\u00edm zam\u011b\u0159oval sp\u00ed\u0161 na jeho objevov\u00e1n\u00ed. Uvid\u00edme, kam se dostanu. Ale hled\u00e1n\u00ed by m\u011b ur\u010dit\u011b bavilo. Obzvl\u00e1\u0161t\u011b v klav\u00edru, kde je skladeb nep\u0159ebern\u00e9 mno\u017estv\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Hledal byste nejsp\u00ed\u0161 v romantick\u00e9 hudb\u011b? Ve star\u0161\u00ed asi ne?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I tam se d\u00e1 naj\u00edt p\u011bkn\u00e1 hudba, ale ano, t\u011b\u017ei\u0161t\u011b je u klav\u00edru v romantick\u00e9 hudb\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Jak d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 pro v\u00e1s osobn\u011b je, na jak\u00fd konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed n\u00e1stroj zrovna ve\u010der hrajete?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ur\u010dit\u011b to nen\u00ed jedno. N\u00e1stroj je d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1 sou\u010d\u00e1st vystoupen\u00ed a \u0159ekl bych, \u017ee na n\u00e1stroji z\u00e1vis\u00ed opravdu hodn\u011b. \u010c\u00edm d\u00e1l v\u00edc se o tom p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010duji. Ale nejde jen o n\u00e1stroj, ale tak\u00e9 o akustiku. Oboj\u00ed je d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 \u2013 a kdy\u017e se to sejde, tak m\u016f\u017ee v\u00fdkon neskute\u010dn\u011b vyr\u016fst. Anebo v opa\u010dn\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b, kdy\u017e nen\u00ed kvalitn\u00ed n\u00e1stroj a je i \u0161patn\u00e1 akustika, tak to m\u016f\u017ee v\u00fdkon \u00fapln\u011b potopit. Pak je samoz\u0159ejm\u011b pot\u0159eba v\u011bd\u011bt, jak na takov\u00e9 podm\u00ednky reagovat, co d\u011blat\u2026 Interpret mus\u00ed b\u00fdt p\u0159ipraven\u00fd na ledasco.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Lze to v\u017edycky n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem ovl\u00e1dnout, nebo m\u016f\u017ee nastat okam\u017eik, kdy \u0159eknete: tohle prost\u011b nejde!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To jsem s\u00e1m neza\u017eil. Ale od profesora Kl\u00e1nsk\u00e9ho jsem sly\u0161el, \u017ee jednou p\u0159ijel ke klav\u00edru, kde nebyla mechanika. Tak tam se opravdu hr\u00e1t nedalo. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b j\u00e1 si nedovedu p\u0159edstavit, \u017ee bych si mohl dovolit z n\u011bjak\u00e9ho takov\u00e9ho d\u016fvodu odm\u00edtnout koncert.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>N\u011bkter\u00e9 klav\u00edry jsou inspirativn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e jin\u00e9\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ano, to je jednozna\u010dn\u00fd poznatek. J\u00e1 m\u00e1m obzvl\u00e1\u0161tn\u00ed slabost pro n\u00e1stroje z prvn\u00ed republiky. To byly obzvl\u00e1\u0161t\u011b poveden\u00e9 n\u00e1stroje. Jednoho dne chci m\u00edt doma sb\u00edrku v\u0161ech \u010dty\u0159 n\u00e1stroj\u016f v\u00fdzna\u010dn\u011bj\u0161\u00edch firem, kter\u00e9 tehdy p\u016fsobily na \u00fazem\u00ed \u010ceskoslovenska. U\u017e m\u00e1m t\u0159i: Scholze, R\u00f6slera a F\u00f6rstera. Je\u0161t\u011b mi chyb\u00ed Petrof.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Maj\u00ed ty zna\u010dky n\u011bco spole\u010dn\u00e9ho, nebo je mezi nimi z\u00e1sadn\u00ed rozd\u00edl?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">V\u00fdrobci p\u016fsobili nedaleko od sebe, ale n\u00e1stroje m\u011bly jin\u00fd zvuk i jin\u00fd hern\u00ed pocit. Dodnes, kdy\u017e se najde zachoval\u00fd n\u00e1stroj z t\u00e9 doby, tedy z doby mezi v\u00e1lkami, tak je po\u017eitek na n\u011bj hr\u00e1t. Zvuky i pocity jsou jin\u00e9, ale v\u017edy p\u0159\u00edjemn\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Cyklus Hybatel\u00e9 rezonance je postaven na jedn\u00e9 zna\u010dce \u2013 C. Bechstein z tradi\u010dn\u00edho n\u011bmeck\u00e9ho z\u00e1vodu v sask\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edhrani\u010dn\u00edm Seifhennersdorfu, nedaleko Varnsdorfu. Je takhle koncipovan\u00fd cyklus recit\u00e1l\u016f obvykl\u00fd dramaturgick\u00fd podn\u011bt?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Vlastn\u011b jsem se s n\u011b\u010d\u00edm podobn\u00fdm je\u0161t\u011b asi nesetkal. S n\u00e1stroji C. Bechstein m\u00e1m v\u0161ak tu nejlep\u0161\u00ed zku\u0161enost. Maj\u00ed obrovskou tradici. Ale na druhou stranu v dne\u0161n\u00ed dob\u011b globalizace se rozd\u00edly st\u00edraj\u00ed, tak si nejsem jist\u00fd, jestli bych p\u0159i poslechu n\u011bkolika n\u00e1stroj\u016f sv\u011btov\u00fdch firem mezi t\u011bmi p\u011bti \u010di \u0161esti poznal Bechsteina.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Volil jste reperto\u00e1r pro recit\u00e1l pod dojmem charakteru klav\u00edr\u016f Bechstein?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">P\u0159izn\u00e1m se, \u017ee ne. Na n\u00e1stroje dne\u0161n\u00edch v\u00fdrobc\u016f se d\u00e1 zahr\u00e1t cokoli, klav\u00edry se vyr\u00e1b\u011bj\u00ed u\u017e sto let prakticky stejn\u011b\u2026 Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee bych reperto\u00e1r nediferencoval ani v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b t\u011bch meziv\u00e1le\u010dn\u00fdch \u010deskoslovensk\u00fdch klav\u00edr\u016f, kter\u00e9 jsem zmi\u0148oval. Naposledy jsem hr\u00e1l na n\u00e1stroj Bechstein v Dr\u00e1\u017e\u010fanech a byl to kr\u00e1sn\u00fd z\u00e1\u017eitek. 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